Sakura Saber Tag Entanglement

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Ylimegirl

So currently Okita Souji is serving as an umbrella tag for these tags:

I hope I don't have to explain why this is silly, especially when Sakura Saber has three distinct ascensions in FGO which I have created tags for.

So my thoughts are kind of predictable. Flatten the hierarchy into something like this:

  • Okita Souji
    • Okita Souji Ascensions
    • Okita J. Souji Ascensions (there may be an argument to keeping the sub-umbrella for this one)
    • Okita Souji Costumes
    • Okita Alter
      • Okita Alter Ascensions
      • Okita Alter Costumes
      • Okita Alter Swimsuit
        • Okita Alter Swimsuit Ascensions

If there is in fact one distinct consistent appearance of her koha-ace depiction, it can be merged with her ascension tag a la Cu Chulainn (Fate/stay night) and Elizabeth Bathory (Fate/Extra). (But based on the GUDAGUDA Order comics at least it seems like it's kinda interchangeable.)

Biggest obstacle here is probably the Okita Alter Swimsuit ascensions, as that's the dreaded quadruple implication. Her first two ascensions have the same smaller appearance, so I'm not sure that can be avoided.

Liable to submit BURs at some point in the next 24 hours.

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Jyu0804

nonamethanks said:

It's either this, or we get rid of the umbrella tag and treat Okita Souji and Okita Souji Alter as two separate characters like we did with Jeanne D'arc (Fate) and Jeanne D'arc Alter (Fate). I'm not sure which option is preferable.

I agree with treat as two separate character. Okita Souji (Fate) and Okita Souji Alter (Fate) have different personalities and beliefs sometimes. Maybe the difference more visible is Rengoku (Fate) with Okita Souji Alter, but I think treat as two separate characters is the best way about these two, Okita Souji Alter is an original entity (separated) like Jalter, but being a Counter Force Guardian.

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Ylimegirl

BUR #46976 has been rejected.

create implication okita_souji_(first_ascension)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
create implication okita_souji_(second_ascension)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
create implication okita_souji_(third_ascension)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
create implication okita_souji_(blossoming_under_the_crimson_sky)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
create implication okita_souji_(celebratory_attire)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
create implication okita_souji_(dream_portrait)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
create implication okita_souji_(teal_haori_and_hakama)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)

Ascensions & costumes for Sakura Seiba.

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Jyu0804 People of the Book Crossland Diomedes21
Ylimegirl

BUR #46978 has been rejected.

remove implication okita_j._souji_(first_ascension)_(fate) -> okita_j._souji_(fate)
create implication okita_j._souji_(first_ascension)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
remove implication okita_j._souji_(second_ascension)_(fate) -> okita_j._souji_(fate)
create implication okita_j._souji_(second_ascension)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
remove implication okita_j._souji_(third_ascension)_(fate) -> okita_j._souji_(fate)
create implication okita_j._souji_(third_ascension)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
deprecate okita_j._souji_(fate)
mass update okita_j._souji_(*)_(fate) -> -okita_j._souji_(fate)

Flattening Okita Jet. There are some similarities between each ascension that could arguably warrant keeping the umbrella around, so I'm not too particular on if this goes through or not.

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Jyu0804 People of the Book Diomedes21
Ylimegirl

BUR #46979 has been rejected.

remove implication okita_souji_alter_(swimsuit_saber)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
create implication okita_souji_alter_(swimsuit_saber)_(fate) -> okita_souji_alter_(fate)

Evil Quadruple Implication.

In regards to fully splintering the tags - compared to Jalter who vastly outnumbers Jeanne posts, Okita Alter has about 1.6k posts, which is barely a dent in Okita Souji's total of 7.4k posts. I guess to me the question is less "quadruple implication" and more "do we want to have all alter (and potentially lily) servants splintered off from their main counterparts", because right now afaik all the other alter tags aren't taking up a big chunk of their unaltered counterparts.

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Jyu0804 People of the Book Diomedes21
tamuraakemi

Ylimegirl said:

BUR #46977 has been rejected.

create alias okita_souji_(koha-ace) -> okita_souji_(fate)

People who have read the actual koha-ace comic if she has a consistent "default" in that manga feel free to submit a counter-bur reversing the ascension to point here ig

Her default would be her appearance in asset #32556863, which is the time where she's actually drawn in a non-chibi manner and also colored. Her chibi appearance usually matches this appearance.

Majin Saber's first appearance (XP) is post #1954432, which her FGO second ascension is clearly based on. She shows up much less often but her Fate/KOHA-ACE appearance is also that.

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