A-hah! You fell for the veggie/fruit trap! ... which I had to check myself first to find out.
In German there would be no trap. In the normal use "Gemüse" (veggie) is everything you could cook with salt and serve with meat and potatoes: carrots, tomatoes, cucumbers, cabbage, beans, eggplant, asparagus ... "Obst" (fruit) is everything sweet, that you can make jam or sweet pies from: strawberries, apples, peaches, oranges ...
Vegetable is a culinary term only; science does not recognize it. Most things called vegetables are not produced by the plant like fruit is(or berries), but they are part of the plant itself. A carrot is a taproot, potatoes are tubers, onions are bulbs, celery is just part of the plant's stalk, etc.
Vegetable is a culinary term only; science does not recognize it. Most things called vegetables are not produced by the plant like fruit is(or berries), but they are part of the plant itself. A carrot is a taproot, potatoes are tubers, onions are bulbs, celery is just part of the plant's stalk, etc.
Technically science does. But it means plant. Any plant. Though since it can be easily confused for the normal colloquial/culinary sense of "vegetable", it almost never gets used that way except in word compounds like "vegetable matter", "vegetable protein", "vegetable oil", "vegetable carbon", etc.
So yes, that means all fruits (in the botanical sense) are also vegetables (but not in the mental sense). So if anyone tries to get uppity and corrects you for calling a tomato a "vegetable", you can turn it right back and out-pedant them.
sanitaeter said:
In German there would be no trap. In the normal use "Gemüse" (veggie) is everything you could cook with salt and serve with meat and potatoes: carrots, tomatoes, cucumbers, cabbage, beans, eggplant, asparagus ... "Obst" (fruit) is everything sweet, that you can make jam or sweet pies from: strawberries, apples, peaches, oranges ...
Admittedly there's a different sort of trap when someone (especially an ignorant tourist) accidentally buy some "Fruit" instead of fruit from a shady character, or when a comedian pranks some party-goers into buying fruit instead of the "Fruit" they wanted, or when someone gets busted for smuggling "Fruit" in crates of fruit... or when some poor fruit wholeseller accidentally discovers some unwanted "Fruit" in his shipment of regular fruit.
»150 Gramm Obst in 'ner Woche einfach weggekifft...«
Though was that how the euphemism came about? Smugglers smuggling "Fruit" in fruit all the time? And do the press have a field day with puns every time it happens?
(Meanwhile English has coca-cola and "cooked" coal, but those don't make for puns as funny as the above.)
(Meanwhile English has coca-cola and "cooked" coal, but those don't make for puns as funny as the above.)
Me: living in the iron ore mining city, that also has all the facilities to produce relevant resources, ore enrichment and smelting fuel ("coke") included. In the online banther I've got topic "you can buy a metric ton of coke for about 1k USD locally". Their replies were full of concern and I've had a field day explaining how to cook this coke along recipes for iron and steel.
Oh, and to spook 'em further, I've been telling stories about ''bloody red streams and pools'', which are iron oxides near mines/quaries after rain.
