Once again a group of Fed scientists screw up, release an abomination that gets them killed, and Samus has to deal with the clean-up. It's a never-ending cycle.
Once again a group of Fed scientists screw up, release an abomination that gets them killed, and Samus has to deal with the clean-up. It's a never-ending cycle.
One of these days Samus will finally snap and get the idea of pulling off a coup JUST to make her life easier.
Once again a group of Fed scientists screw up, release an abomination that gets them killed, and Samus has to deal with the clean-up. It's a never-ending cycle.
So, obviously that includes Fusion, Other M, and now Dread; does Super count too? Because I feel like they actually had the metroid pretty well under control until Ridley showed up, so I'm not sure that'd be their fault. Am I missing anything from the Primes?
So, obviously that includes Fusion, Other M, and now Dread; does Super count too? Because I feel like they actually had the metroid pretty well under control until Ridley showed up, so I'm not sure that'd be their fault. Am I missing anything from the Primes?
Hm. Not really? The Federation does play an active part in the first Prime game. There's a Federation battleship patrolling the Zebes system, hunting pirates. Something the pirates are very concerned with.
Prime 2, they win a space battle with the pirates, but crash land on the planet due to dimensional distortion. Then they get overrun by the Inq.
Prime 3, they present Samus with the module necessary to deal with the Phazon corruption she's experiencing. They do alot, actually, most of it helpful.
Prime 3, they present Samus with the module necessary to deal with the Phazon corruption she's experiencing. They do alot, actually, most of it helpful.
I actually can't remember if it was implied that the PED suit(s) were responsible for exacerbating the symptoms of phazon sickness or not, maybe I was just reading too much into the "hypermode costs health" mechanic and all the hunters would have succumbed just as quickly anyways.
Oh, but since exterminating the metroids on SR388 directly lead to the resurgence of the X-Parasites, that could probably be counted as one of their fuck-ups (since they commissioned Samus to do it).
I actually can't remember if it was implied that the PED suit(s) were responsible for exacerbating the symptoms of phazon sickness or not, maybe I was just reading too much into the "hypermode costs health" mechanic and all the hunters would have succumbed just as quickly anyways.
Oh, but since exterminating the metroids on SR388 directly lead to the resurgence of the X-Parasites, that could probably be counted as one of their fuck-ups (since they commissioned Samus to do it).
It is called "Corrupt hypermode" once you overload it, and despite its automatic shutoff, it evidently can't handle phazon energy all that well or protect the user from it given how you get phazon-mutations by the end.
I actually can't remember if it was implied that the PED suit(s) were responsible for exacerbating the symptoms of phazon sickness or not, maybe I was just reading too much into the "hypermode costs health" mechanic and all the hunters would have succumbed just as quickly anyways.
Oh, but since exterminating the metroids on SR388 directly lead to the resurgence of the X-Parasites, that could probably be counted as one of their fuck-ups (since they commissioned Samus to do it).
The subplot the Metroid series has kind of worked on since Fusion was that the Federation are hypocrites. Or at least, there are bad actors who don't go along with the official stance. Officially, the Metroids are too dangerous to be allowed to exist, not so much in of themselves, but because of the power the pirates may harness from them. Unofficially, the Federation intends to weaponize the Metroids themselves.
Other M tried to develop that some more, but it stomped on one of the core aspects of the series; Samus is an out of context problem for the powers that be. It would take *extraordinary* circumstances to seriously slow her down, let alone threaten her. And that only lasts until she's gained experience and adapts.
I kind of think the plot for Dread will be an anti-Samus initiative gone awry. Because while Samus may be benevolent, she's independent. And two of the greatest threats posed to the Federation in recent times were literal incarnations of her. The X-Parasite made significant head way because it coopted Samus's skills and technology. Dark Samus did that several times over, and became a potential threat to galactic civilization.
Steak said: I kind of think the plot for Dread will be an anti-Samus initiative gone awry. Because while Samus may be benevolent, she's independent. And two of the greatest threats posed to the Federation in recent times were literal incarnations of her. The X-Parasite made significant head way because it coopted Samus's skills and technology. Dark Samus did that several times over, and became a potential threat to galactic civilization.
Is the Prime series part of the normal chronology or are there different timelines in the Metroid universe? I find it complex to fit the Prime series along the normal series, specially given now, that Metroid 5 is being released while Metroid Prime 4 is under development.
Is the Prime series part of the normal chronology or are there different timelines in the Metroid universe? I find it complex to fit the Prime series along the normal series, specially given now, that Metroid 5 is being released while Metroid Prime 4 is under development.
If I remember it correctly, the Prime games all fit between the original Metroid and Samus Returns.
Is the Prime series part of the normal chronology or are there different timelines in the Metroid universe? I find it complex to fit the Prime series along the normal series, specially given now, that Metroid 5 is being released while Metroid Prime 4 is under development.
Retro was careful to not contradict Metroid, Samus Returns, Super Metroid, and Fusion. Zero Mission introduces a mechanical Ridley at the end, which chronologically would have been right before his meta appearance in Prime. I think both studios and creative teams are respectively keeping their distances from one another for the time being though.
I kind of think the plot for Dread will be an anti-Samus initiative gone awry. Because while Samus may be benevolent, she's independent. And two of the greatest threats posed to the Federation in recent times were literal incarnations of her. The X-Parasite made significant head way because it coopted Samus's skills and technology. Dark Samus did that several times over, and became a potential threat to galactic civilization.
I love the idea that the greatest threat to Samus, is Samus. That she's so powerful that there are few, if any, beings in the entire universe strong enough to take her in a legit fight.
Steak said: I kind of think the plot for Dread will be an anti-Samus initiative gone awry. Because while Samus may be benevolent, she's independent. And two of the greatest threats posed to the Federation in recent times were literal incarnations of her. The X-Parasite made significant head way because it coopted Samus's skills and technology. Dark Samus did that several times over, and became a potential threat to galactic civilization.
Is she really benevolent when she caused several planets to explode?
Is she really benevolent when she caused several planets to explode?
The only time the planet's explosion was actually her fault was in Fusion (where she crashed the space station into SR388 to wipe out the X-Parasites), every other time it was because someone else (usually the space pirates/mother brain) rigged it to blow once they were defeated.
The only time the planet's explosion was actually her fault was in Fusion (where she crashed the space station into SR388 to wipe out the X-Parasites), every other time it was because someone else (usually the space pirates/mother brain) rigged it to blow once they were defeated.
Fair, but due to the nature of the phazon fuckery on Aether one of the two "planets" had to fall apart either way, Samus just chose to save the one not infested with body-snatchers.
I'll add another important Federation contribution; saving Light Aether.
Although it's easy to write off the Federation troops in Echoes as red shirts who died simply to introduce stakes and serve as a plot device for Samus's entry into the story, they may have inadvertently destroyed the Inq attack force meant to assault the main temple.
The Luminoth were done. They only had one refuge and Sentinel left. All the Inq had to do was gather a force big enough to defeat U'mos and it was over. Something they'd already done 3 separate times at the other energy collectors. They sent hundreds of Inq against each temple guardian, so why was the force Samus encountered so small? She fought a half dozen of them, and the fact that one of them had the very important energy transfer module would indicate that they were the force sent to steal light Aether's energy. But there's no way the Inq would have thought such a small group could overcome a Sentinel.
Answer is the Inq ran into an unexpected enemy; a few dozen of the Federation's finest stranded in the middle of nowhere. Right on the Temple's door-step. The Inq couldn't ignore that. So they changed plans. They'd wipe out the new arrivals and then wait as they gathered a new force. Only Samus showed up when they least expected her, and while the Federation put up a fight, they were hardly a match for the Inq. One lone human entering the Temple wasn't something they'd have any real reason to be worried about.
And that's how they lost the Energy Transfer Module. They thought Samus was just another human. Something admittedly new, formidable in it's own right, but hardly worth worrying about.
