Sorasaki Hina is under the age of 18, I'm not completely sure of the qualifications to the tag, but since she is a minor and childlike in appearance, would this qualify for the loli tag? I'd like to know.
Sorasaki Hina is under the age of 18, I'm not completely sure of the qualifications to the tag, but since she is a minor and childlike in appearance, would this qualify for the loli tag? I'd like to know.
All that matters is whether she looks prepubescent in the post in question. She doesn’t, so the tag doesn’t apply here. And canon age has no bearing whatsoever.
All that matters is whether she looks prepubescent in the post in question. She doesn’t, so the tag doesn’t apply here. And canon age has no bearing whatsoever.
Thank you, at least you're the person who actually answered my question instead of downvoting me to oblivion for asking a question, I hope you never stub your toe again
Thank you, at least you're the person who actually answered my question instead of downvoting me to oblivion for asking a question, I hope you never stub your toe again
Sure, but just know that in the future, it’s best to read the tag’s wiki before asking how to use it. Everything I explained here is also explained there.
Sure, but just know that in the future, it’s best to read the tag’s wiki before asking how to use it. Everything I explained here is also explained there.
well any x rated material of someone under 18 is illegal where I am so I cant watch this anyways
well any x rated material of someone under 18 is illegal where I am so I cant watch this anyways
Wait, we know in which year Hina was born? She's not a real person, she has not a real ID, she can't be under 18, she can't be above 18 either. She also can't and can't not give consent, by virtue of not being a person with an ego and a sense of self.
How do the rights of a fictional person work, after all? They don't. They are not alive.
Here's a more relevant question: If someone sees such pictures over your shoulder, are they going to appreciate that distinction?
Alanis, killed by a prefect named Hina
A responsible user wouldn’t put themself in that situation in the first place. If any characters under 18 are off-limits according to local laws, then it would be safest to just not use Danbooru at all (or stick to donmai.moe) since a lot of characters sexualized on here are underage, even if it’s just by one or two years.
Here's a more relevant question: If someone sees such pictures over your shoulder, are they going to appreciate that distinction?
Alanis, killed by a prefect named Hina
Why would there be someone observing me watch porn, said porn content being irrelevant? I should not consume porn in public, and the public should not observe me in private.
Had I been watching porn on my smartphone in public, while riding a bus, for example, whoever sees me will judge me harshly, not mattering if the content was loli, vanilla, milf or geriatric.
Why would there be someone observing me watch porn, said porn content being irrelevant? I should not consume porn in public, and the public should not observe me in private.
Had I been watching porn on my smartphone in public, while riding a bus, for example, whoever sees me will judge me harshly, not mattering if the content was loli, vanilla, milf or geriatric.
For some reason someone saying to a friend "I was caught watching geriatric porn in public" sounds like a weirdly entertaining sitcom bit.
Why would there be someone observing me watch porn, said porn content being irrelevant? I should not consume porn in public, and the public should not observe me in private.
Had I been watching porn on my smartphone in public, while riding a bus, for example, whoever sees me will judge me harshly, not mattering if the content was loli, vanilla, milf or geriatric.
Okay, this reminds me of a weird situation I was in like 7 years prior, I was in college and I was in the computer room playing video games, when I saw in the corner of my eye someone outright watching hentai in public on the computer and I was like "brruh... "
In any case, although unlikely, this can indeed happen to you or someone else in unexpected places.
A responsible user wouldn’t put themself in that situation in the first place.
Sigfried666 said:
I should not consume porn in public, and the public should not observe me in private.
Tell me you two live alone without saying you two live alone. ("I didn't write that" and yet I read it.) All the scenario I mentioned really needs is a housemate who needs to get wherever your screen is and is too rushed/distracted/scatterbrained to knock.
Tell me you two live alone without saying you two live alone. ("I didn't write that" and yet I read it.) All the scenario I mentioned really needs is a housemate who needs to get wherever your screen is and is too rushed/distracted/scatterbrained to knock.
Alanis, killed by a housemate
So at this point, the person in the right to be offended is, by any means, the one being intruded upon, not the other way around.
Meaning, and I shall put MYSELF in the example, if I was in my room looking at lolicon hentai art, and someone barged into the place to, as previously suggested, look at what I am consuming and judge me for it, I would be furious at the intrusion and disrespect.
Tell me you two live alone without saying you two live alone. ("I didn't write that" and yet I read it.) All the scenario I mentioned really needs is a housemate who needs to get wherever your screen is and is too rushed/distracted/scatterbrained to knock.
Alanis, killed by a housemate
I don’t live alone. It’s just that everyone knows better than to barge into my room without permission. Though maybe you don’t consider that any different since I’m not sharing it with anyone.
Sigfried666 said:
So at this point, the person in the right to be offended is, by any means, the one being intruded upon, not the other way around.
Meaning, and I shall put MYSELF in the example, if I was in my room looking at lolicon hentai art, and someone barged into the place to, as previously suggested, look at what I am consuming and judge me for it, I would be furious at the intrusion and disrespect.
While you are absolutely correct and the blame rests entirely on the one intruding (even if it’s just an accident), there’s a simple device that can prevent this from happening entirely: locks.
Also, as a reminder, this conversation started with the concern of viewing content that is illegal in one’s region, not just embarrassing. Even if you feel you’re the victim for having your privacy violated, the law won’t see it that way.
Blank_User said: Also, as a reminder, this conversation started with the concern of viewing content that is illegal in one’s region, not just embarrassing. Even if you feel you’re the victim for having your privacy violated, the law won’t see it that way.
Right you are, we certainly deviated fron the topic. Back then, my point was that a fictional character and a drawing can't be neither underage or above age. For they are not a real person.
I do understand that a sex scene with Hina or Ibuki can be off-putting to lots of people, but why should it be considered illegal (criminal?) material? Nobody was exploited, abused or forced in the making of these artworks (as far as I know), and as I said previously, fictional characters, not being real people, have no capacity to feel offended or forced. They can't neither reject nor desire the situation, for they don't exist.
What just happened.... Also the United States banned a game from Japan just because the characters involved (It was a Porn game) had the ability to wear school uniforms, (I'm not talking about the sailor outfits people call school uniforms for some reason) I also don't use danbooru in public environments...
What just happened.... Also the United States banned a game from Japan just because the characters involved (It was a Porn game) had the ability to wear school uniforms, (I'm not talking about the sailor outfits people call school uniforms for some reason) I also don't use danbooru in public environments...
SerafukuARE school uniforms. How do you consume Japanese media and not cotton onto that?
What just happened.... Also the United States banned a game from Japan just because the characters involved (It was a Porn game) had the ability to wear school uniforms, (I'm not talking about the sailor outfits people call school uniforms for some reason) I also don't use danbooru in public environments...
Which game? As an American, I will tell you that the U.S. Government almost never bans games as doing so would violate our constitution’s First Amendment. Something like being able to wear school uniforms would not legally be enough of a justification to ban it. Granted, other factors like ratings systems, marketability, and company policies can affect its availability in the U.S., but that doesn’t make owning the game illegal.
The only commercial game that I can think of that is actually illegal in the U.S. is The Guy Game, and that’s only because one of the topless women they had on it (as in real women, not fictional characters) turned out to be 17.
Wait, we know in which year Hina was born? She's not a real person, she has not a real ID, she can't be under 18, she can't be above 18 either. She also can't and can't not give consent, by virtue of not being a person with an ego and a sense of self.
How do the rights of a fictional person work, after all? They don't. They are not alive.
I know ts gonna be downvoted but Godlord no way this statement will validate anything. By this logic then why I can't upload someone such as anya, becky or anyone around her "look" here? (as you mention there's no such concept of "age" for the fictional characters)
The answer way simpler but i guess you can figure it out
I know ts gonna be downvoted but Godlord no way this statement will validate anything. By this logic then why I can't upload someone such as anya, becky or anyone around her "look" here? (as you mention there's no such concept of "age" for the fictional characters)
The answer way simpler but i guess you can figure it out
You can upload those characters. You just don't see them because loli and shota are hidden from Member level users.
You can upload those characters. You just don't see them because loli and shota are hidden from Member level users.
Okay yeah ik the gold member tags. But the answer am quote above still won't work. The answer itself weren't wrong, but it leaves big loophole to make it so wrong in many ways that's what am trying to say. The answer is simple; the given character (on this post is Hina) is already can feel love and affection while the other characters I've mentioned is not in their puberty. This is why this post likely to get passed over the loli tag.
Okay yeah ik the gold member tags. But the answer am quote above still won't work. The answer itself weren't wrong, but it leaves big loophole to make it so wrong in many ways that's what am trying to say. The answer is simple; the given character (on this post is Hina) is already can feel love and affection while the other characters I've mentioned is not in their puberty. This is why this post likely to get passed over the loli tag.
We may be playing differente sports with different goals here. But of course, I don't believe my musings will have power to change moralists' minds, even less countries laws. But my belief is that ART based on FICTIONAL characters should not be considered criminal material for they are not real.
You mentioned Anya and Becky (I suppose you meant the Spy x Family children characters). Let's work with Anya, then, for a moment. Anya began her existence at the age 5 or 6, back when the manga started, in 2019. That's six years ago. But is Anya now considered 11 or 12? Of course not, TIME does not exist for drawings and fictional characters. She will NEVER reach adulthood by means of real world time passage. BUT a timeskip in the story could jump her to beyond adulthood in the blink of an eye. In two mere real world weeks, she could skip to being and adult, or even a mother. That's part of the nature of being a character.
The same applies to Hina, here. She was 17 when the game first released, back in 2021. She is still 17. She will forever be skirting along the underage side of the law. Maybe a different version of her, aged up, coming from a different world, could appear, but that's not the point.
Ficitional characters should not be subject to laws made for real people. It makes no sense.
And when censorship comes for the lolicon art, it is not about protecting real children (nor fictional children), it's about control. That's where things can go out of our control.
For if we consider the lolicon art the same as real child abuse, then we are ready to go further. Fictional rape, cheating and all sorts of sexual fetishes will be scrutinized next. But it might not stop there. Violence can fall under scrutiny too, and then we would need to censor action mangas and movies, for those have both villains and heroes commiting murder.
I'm drifiting away from the subject. Sorry. What I mean to say is that ALL art should be allowed to exist. Even art I dislike and disgree with. For art is a means of expression, and should not be conflated with action.
SerafukuARE school uniforms. How do you consume Japanese media and not cotton onto that?
I very rarely consume Japanese media, I rarely use anything on this site other than a few saved searches and scrolling comments, in my opinion I try to stray away from Japanese media merely because I don't like the government and quality of life in Japan, though me not liking that salary workers can barely afford pets wont change anything.
We may be playing differente sports with different goals here. But of course, I don't believe my musings will have power to change moralists' minds, even less countries laws. But my belief is that ART based on FICTIONAL characters should not be considered criminal material for they are not real.
You mentioned Anya and Becky (I suppose you meant the Spy x Family children characters). Let's work with Anya, then, for a moment. Anya began her existence at the age 5 or 6, back when the manga started, in 2019. That's six years ago. But is Anya now considered 11 or 12? Of course not, TIME does not exist for drawings and fictional characters. She will NEVER reach adulthood by means of real world time passage. BUT a timeskip in the story could jump her to beyond adulthood in the blink of an eye. In two mere real world weeks, she could skip to being and adult, or even a mother. That's part of the nature of being a character.
The same applies to Hina, here. She was 17 when the game first released, back in 2021. She is still 17. She will forever be skirting along the underage side of the law. Maybe a different version of her, aged up, coming from a different world, could appear, but that's not the point.
Ficitional characters should not be subject to laws made for real people. It makes no sense.
And when censorship comes for the lolicon art, it is not about protecting real children (nor fictional children), it's about control. That's where things can go out of our control.
For if we consider the lolicon art the same as real child abuse, then we are ready to go further. Fictional rape, cheating and all sorts of sexual fetishes will be scrutinized next. But it might not stop there. Violence can fall under scrutiny too, and then we would need to censor action mangas and movies, for those have both villains and heroes commiting murder.
I'm drifiting away from the subject. Sorry. What I mean to say is that ALL art should be allowed to exist. Even art I dislike and disgree with. For art is a means of expression, and should not be conflated with action.
I disagree with most art too, especially loli, since I believe what someone consumes in fiction will partially affect their reality, though that wont make me hate them, since at least it isn't Chile where the age of consent is 14 (I forgot the name of which it was but one country has an age of consent of 9 years old)
Which game? As an American, I will tell you that the U.S. Government almost never bans games as doing so would violate our constitution’s First Amendment. [...]
In general if someone is misremembering a Japanese hentai game that was "banned" it's pretty much always RapeLay, and as you said it isn't actually banned in the US.
I know ts gonna be downvoted but Godlord no way this statement will validate anything. By this logic then why I can't upload someone such as anya, becky or anyone around her "look" here? (as you mention there's no such concept of "age" for the fictional characters)
The answer way simpler but i guess you can figure it out
Sigfried666 was arguing about what should be, not what is. Which, by the way, probably isn't even necessary to do since they're pretty much preaching to the choir anyway.
Also, not only can you still upload these as blindVigil mentioned, you can also see your own loli/shota uploads. You just can't see ones posted by others.
Nickle_Cradle_Colorado said:
I disagree with most art too, especially loli, since I believe what someone consumes in fiction will partially affect their reality, though that wont make me hate them, since at least it isn't Chile where the age of consent is 14 (I forgot the name of which it was but one country has an age of consent of 9 years old)
I think you can only speak for yourself on that matter. I've played my fair share of Mario games and never felt the urge to jump on random turtles.
There are likely some people that can't compartmentalize these things and need to avoid them. That does not mean those that can need to as well. The onus is on the consumer, not the producer.
Sigfried666 was arguing about what should be, not what is. Which, by the way, probably isn't even necessary to do since they're pretty much preaching to the choir anyway.
Also, not only can you still upload these as blindVigil mentioned, you can also see your own loli/shota uploads. You just can't see ones posted by others.
I think you can only speak for yourself on that matter. I've played my fair share of Mario games and never felt the urge to jump on random turtles.
There are likely some people that can't compartmentalize these things and need to avoid them. That does not mean those that can need to as well. The onus is on the consumer, not the producer.
I didn't mean it as in the jump on turtle intrusive thoughts, I more meant fetish art, since most people (not saying all) people who have had some thing to do with loli almost always seemed creepy
We may be playing differente sports with different goals here. But of course, I don't believe my musings will have power to change moralists' minds, even less countries laws. But my belief is that ART based on FICTIONAL characters should not be considered criminal material for they are not real.
Ficitional characters should not be subject to laws made for real people. It makes no sense.
I think we are. Keep in mind that am not trying to bring any politics, law and stuff here. None of my statement above affiliate with law and stuff since it's a fiction.
Sigfried666 said:
You mentioned Anya and Becky (I suppose you meant the Spy x Family children characters). Let's work with Anya, then, for a moment. Anya began her existence at the age 5 or 6, back when the manga started, in 2019. That's six years ago. But is Anya now considered 11 or 12? Of course not, TIME does not exist for drawings and fictional characters. She will NEVER reach adulthood by means of real world time passage. BUT a timeskip in the story could jump her to beyond adulthood in the blink of an eye. In two mere real world weeks, she could skip to being and adult, or even a mother. That's part of the nature of being a character.
The same applies to Hina, here. She was 17 when the game first released, back in 2021. She is still 17. She will forever be skirting along the underage side of the law. Maybe a different version of her, aged up, coming from a different world, could appear, but that's not the point.
Human brain can gather information and make an assumption and hypothesis through abstract and minimum information given. While you saying that no concept of age on a fictional characters, it maybe does but you really cannot say that you make an assumption on 3 different characters I've mentioned above. People can see the character, let's say it's Anya Forger; is an elementary school around 9-12. You really cannot say she's 16 or 17 and people will agree with that, and vice versa; saying sorasaki hina that already can felt love and affection and call her a 8 year old girl.
Sigfried666 said:
And when censorship comes for the lolicon art, it is not about protecting real children (nor fictional children), it's about control. That's where things can go out of our control.
For if we consider the lolicon art the same as real child abuse, then we are ready to go further. Fictional rape, cheating and all sorts of sexual fetishes will be scrutinized next. But it might not stop there. Violence can fall under scrutiny too, and then we would need to censor action mangas and movies, for those have both villains and heroes commiting murder.
I'm drifiting away from the subject. Sorry. What I mean to say is that ALL art should be allowed to exist. Even art I dislike and disgree with. For art is a means of expression, and should not be conflated with action.
People thinking that am being jerk going judging over someone tastes right now. But am not. None of my statement that am against the loli stuff. Who am i judging someone taste? Im trying to say that if you want to defend something, just make it atleast logical. My very first comment exist because it wasn't logic at all
People thinking that am being jerk going judging over someone tastes right now. But am not. None of my statement that am against the loli stuff. Who am i judging someone taste? Im trying to say that if you want to defend something, just make it atleast logical. My very first comment exist because it wasn't logic at all
The comment was making the case for why it should be legal in response to another comment saying it was illegal in their country. Defending its legality is completely logical in this circumstance. The reasons why people may be disgusted by it or why we don’t tag teenagers with loli or shota are completely different issues.
Blank_User said: why we don’t tag teenagers with loli or shota are completely different issues.
This is a bit misleading, because we DO tag teenagers with the loli tag. It would be more correct to say any character with a body less developed physically than a teenager.
This is a bit misleading, because we DO tag teenagers with the loli tag. It would be more correct to say any character with a body less developed physically than a teenager.
I wish I saw this reply sooner. I assumed it would be obvious what I meant because I already said canon age is irrelevant in my first comment on this post. But maybe I was being too generous in thinking the average user would actually read the previous comments for context (not you specifically, but in general).
What the hell is this conversation, why do some random nobodies feel the needs to inject their belief into this whole tagging stuff they don't know shit about, just leave it to the actual contributor who knows what they're doing to do the job. oh god it keeps getting worse the more I read ts so ass
