Smile princess, this jerk doesn't deserve you.

Why's he a jerk?
It's not like he knew.

It was so painstakingly obvious though.
Goes to prove that some people are just oblivious to love.

aoi-hoshi said:
Why's he a jerk?
It's not like he knew.

Well considering the amount of time that she spent seeing him in hospital (which the show hints at is alot). You would think that he would have said something.... he didn't.

A fish that cannot smell nor see nor hear (but does hunger) only bites the bait it happens to run into, so at most times, a rod would be useless, but it CAN be caught with one's bare hands and be just as delicious.

Saphyr said:
A fish that cannot smell nor see nor hear (but does hunger) only bites the bait it happens to run into, so at most times, a rod would be useless, but it CAN be caught with one's bare hands and be just as delicious.

wtf man?

Saphyr said:
A fish that cannot smell nor see nor hear (but does hunger) only bites the bait it happens to run into, so at most times, a rod would be useless, but it CAN be caught with one's bare hands and be just as delicious.

That was irrelevant to this situation...

peanutbuttersam said:
wtf man?

DOCoSPADEo said:
That was irrelevant to this situation...

Its totally relevant to this discussion. No sarcasm in my voice FYI. Hes using that metaphor for Kyousuke.

Tetsamaru said:
Its totally relevant to this discussion. No sarcasm in my voice FYI. Hes using that metaphor for Kyousuke.

I think they were implying was that it's not really that great of a metaphor. Or maybe I'm giving too much credit? YOU DECIDE, AMERICA!

Regardless, blaming Kyousuke for the fact that Sayaka couldn't keep her shit together long enough to tell him her feelings is just asinine. Sayaka did absolutely nothing for Kyousuke that you would not expect from a dedicated friend. So saying "he should have known" just doesn't hold water. If the sex of the characters had been swapped, would you be saying "She should have known, how could she do that"? Somehow I doubt it.And While it certainly is tragic that she used her wish to heal him, there is no way he could have possibly known that she did that for him (unless of course she told him, which again, she didn't).Blaming Kyousuke is not only morally and logically suspect, but it actually is ignoring what makes Sayaka's fall so tragic in the first place: The fact that it was her own mistakes that led to it, and that the whole goddamn mess could have possibly been avoided if she'd just been more forthcoming towards the man that she loved.

Even if he did somehow know, he would still have no obligation to return the sentiment.
No one should be treated as nothing more than a prize; That's something that far too many writers forget.

Heparine said:
stuff

This was the main theme behind Sayaka's wish. Mami herself
flat out tells Sayaka right at the start that there's a big difference between wanting to help someone, and wanting to be thanked for helping someone.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that Sayaka's wish was selfish whatsoever.
She helped her beloved friend who had no idea that she had any feelings for him (Although, I just believe that he's not good at reading the mood. The way she behaved kinda gave it away)
Wanting to be loved in return is normal, and I don't think that she should be blamed for it. What mainly led to her downfall was the realization that she's suffering for his sake and he's unaware (Poor fellow). Neither of them should be blamed.

Heparine said:
It was not forgotten, it's just that Sayaka's character and train of thought were portrayed in a rather realistic way: It's hard not to expect anything in return, it's against our very nature. Even if you tell both yourself and the others that you don't, you still do, deep inside where no one can see it. You still hope for something to arise from you acting that way in the end, even if it's just "good karma" or something like that. It especially hurts to admit you're not actually acting selflessly if the person you love is involved. Sayaka hated herself when she realized that and after she found herself wishing she hadn't saved Hitomi - if only for a moment. To atone for that and to prove that she still stands behind all the noble ideals, she eventually refused to take her wish back, allowing Kyousuke to live happily with Hitomi.

Sereptim said:
This was the main theme behind Sayaka's wish. Mami herself
flat out tells Sayaka right at the start that there's a big difference between wanting to help someone, and wanting to be thanked for helping someone.

Sayaka is ultimately unable to recognize the selfish nature of her wish, and thus sets up her own tragic fall.

Kaeyuki said:
I'm sorry, but I don't believe that Sayaka's wish was selfish whatsoever.
She helped her beloved friend who had no idea that she had any feelings for him (Although, I just believe that he's not good at reading the mood. The way she behaved kinda gave it away)
Wanting to be loved in return is normal, and I don't think that she should be blamed for it. What mainly led to her downfall was the realization that she's suffering for his sake and he's unaware (Poor fellow). Neither of them should be blamed.

I wholeheartedly agree with what is being said. One thing that annoys me about some of the fanbase of this series is that some watch the show with a narrow mindset and see only 2 sides to the plot. Whereas, this show has a lot more angles to it.

That being said, nice picture.