Feature: The ability to have multiple appeals per post

NeptuneStarPrime said:

Well, at least I’m trying to let some users to see some new artists on this platform

Ok man, but that doesn't mean its high enough quality to get approved. I would consider myself a fairly mediocre artist, but I don't think my art's anywhere near good enough for Danbooru. Doubling down on that isn't going to retroactively make your unapproved posts get approved.

In terms of the actual proposal, I think having a cooldown for re-appeals is fine. (re-flags might also be useful?)

NeptuneStarPrime said:

Well, at least I’m trying to let some users to see some new artists on this platform

And? It's not that hard to find new artists who pass the queue consistently if you know what you're doing. You act like what's being asked of you is extremely unreasonable, when it really isn't.

Anyway, all this is more or less to say: Quit wasting everyone's time with these inane complaints. Take it to topic #7934 for all I care if you ever feel like taking actual feedback. All you are accomplishing right now is making a fool of yourself, when you could be doing something infinitely more productive with your time.

In an effort to force this topic somewhere on track...I wouldn't mind a six month cooldown limit for appeals myself. I hardly ever appeal these days, but with how often the queue roster fluctuates, appeals that would've failed once again two years ago may pass today, and I think that's important to recognize. Also, I don't think trolls on this site are patient enough to wait that long for appealing their trash uploads, and it would give more legitimately good that might've gone unnoticed a year or more ago a shot to be recognized properly if someone still cares enough for it.

If it means I can appeal post #7412460 again then I am all for this.

I think a 6 month or 1 year cooldown period is good.

Ylimegirl said:

Ok man, but that doesn't mean its high enough quality to get approved. I would consider myself a fairly mediocre artist, but I don't think my art's anywhere near good enough for Danbooru. Doubling down on that isn't going to retroactively make your unapproved posts get approved.

In terms of the actual proposal, I think having a cooldown for re-appeals is fine. (re-flags might also be useful?)

Having a cooldown on flags too sounds prone to people commiting soft vandalism by just flagging posts they don't like every now and then, if it does happen there should be more restrictions than on appeals.

ANON_TOKYO said:

Having a cooldown on flags too sounds prone to people commiting soft vandalism by just flagging posts they don't like every now and then, if it does happen there should be more restrictions than on appeals.

Like people couldn't do the exact same thing with appeals?

I mean, this "all flags I don't like are vandalism" mentality is exactly what got the flag vandalism thread locked, because you guys couldn't stop complaining about flags even after the site owner told you to quit whining about them.

HyphenSam said:

If it means I can appeal post #7412460 again then I am all for this.

Given the drama that happened not even a month ago with joke appeals, I would highly recommend making liberal use of /s when making remarks like these.

I think this topic should be renamed as "The ability to have multiple appeals per post".

- Indeed, 2 weeks from the moment the last appeal failed should be the minimum cooldown. Each appeal should still cost 3 upload slots, as is the case currently. I don't think the cooldown should be more than a few months - absolute MAXIMUM is 1 year, no longer than that.
- Don't use sockpuppets AT ALL. That means merely multiple appeals per post on only one account yourself with considerably lengthy cooldown between appeal attempts per post. (Sockpuppets are against the rules, so...)
- If you managed to create an appeal, you cannot report that appeal's post until the appeal are dealt with (either approval or failure, whichever comes true first).
- If you absolutely have to add a cap, make it 3-5, depending on how short or long the cooldown are. If the cooldown is shorter (less than 1 month), 5 appeals per post. But if it's longer like... 3-6 months (or even full year) cooldown then we can do with 3 appeals per post. If you're more than a member (i.e. being Gold+) then maybe you can increase or even safely ignore the cap.
- Flag vandalism (and to at least some extent, joke appeals) should be dealt accordingly. As @HyphenSam and @Blank_User talked:

HyphenSam said:

If it means I can appeal post #7412460 again then I am all for this.

Blank_User said:

Given the drama that happened not even a month ago with joke appeals, I would highly recommend making liberal use of /s when making remarks like these.

(And there's also topic #7934, but do your jobs at your risk)

ElChapulin said:

With the current system a post is either good or bad, there's no inbetween, that's my main problem.

I believe the best solution is to give weight to people's votes(Eg: a normal user could have a weight of 1, builder 5, contributor 10, approver 20) or something.

Sadly, I know it is too late for that now, but I still wanted to throw this out there.

You can probably approximate this by showing deleted posts and then using CSS to hide posts with a score under a certain value.
All it will mean is that you'll see posts that are badly drawn, but with something that gets a user's attention like a specific fetish they like or some such, and then hopefully you would come around to see why the system is the way it is by default.
I just tried this and you can actually just add something like "score:<10" to your blacklist, and you'll only see posts with a high enough score.
It doesn't do your weighting by user type thing, but hey, if someone of a high enough rank likes it, they would just undelete it anyway.

post #6591009

Looks like you can appeal a post multiple times, but only at the same time.

drinkyourvegetables said:

post #6591009

Looks like you can appeal a post multiple times, but only at the same time.

Then it's functionally no different from a single appeal. This thread is about giving users the ability to appeal multiple times on purpose.

Blank_User said:

Then it's functionally no different from a single appeal. This thread is about giving users the ability to appeal multiple times on purpose.

That was an attempt at being facetious, but I can make a separate bug thread if that's worthwhile. The two appeals take six slots, but otherwise I don't see any issue from a Member perspective.

I'm still in favor of allowing multiple appeals after some cooldown period, but I assume that is not the majority opinion among those who have to deal with those appeals.

drinkyourvegetables said:

That was an attempt at being facetious, but I can make a separate bug thread if that's worthwhile. The two appeals take six slots, but otherwise I don't see any issue from a Member perspective.

I'm still in favor of allowing multiple appeals after some cooldown period, but I assume that is not the majority opinion among those who have to deal with those appeals.

Right, I forgot to consider that if a feature had a cost, it would be doubled if something caused it to get sent twice. Yes, I think a separate thread would be a good idea. It's a serious bug and reports would probably go unnoticed in a contentious topic like this.