That sweater is generating heat in more ways that just it's design & materials . . . .

loplopsama said:

That sweater is generating heat in more ways that just it's design & materials . . . .

Its actually a thermal undershirt.

Those folds are hurting my brain.

I like the eye to detail that Himura has while drawing; unlike the average artist, he took into account the fact that this brand is not tailor-made to the buyer's specific measurements, and thus averted the impossible clothes trope.

That is is next-gen shading work on that cleavage and shirt. I am in awe.

ranko.dd said:

That is is next-gen shading work on that cleavage and shirt. I am in awe.

So Expert Shading candidate?

Honestly i thought Himura use real life clothes and edit it to his work. Because that shading (on clothes) is really detail.

ReyZha7 said:

So Expert Shading candidate?

Honestly i thought Himura use real life clothes and edit it to his work. Because that shading (on clothes) is really detail.

Maybe even real life person wearing them?

I have to admit, the shading on her breasts and that shirt is so detailed it makes her face look out-of-place on her body in that shot.

The final line of commentary's translation is based on the official description of HEATTECH on Uniqlo's website. To quote:

Uniqlo said:

That dilemma has been resolved with groundbreaking technology—HEATTECH from UNIQLO. Its fibers absorb moisture that the body emits, and the fabric itself generates heat.

BTW, can someone double-check my translations of the other commentaries?

MarqFJA87 said:

The final line of commentary's translation is based on the official description of HEATTECH on Uniqlo's website. To quote:

BTW, can someone double-check my translations of the other commentaries?

First sentence has the order of modifiers slightly off. It's ([([描きたいもの]が描きたい)感じ]に描けて)満足の朝, using brackets to show nesting, making it literally "Satisfying morning where I drew with a feeling of drawing what I want to draw", or more idiomatically, "Had a satisfying morning where I got to draw what I want to draw."

Second and third lines are correct, but sound a bit stilted in English.

Overall, I'll say you got the individual words correct. Sentence-wise, not quite, but still a very good effort nonetheless.

NNescio said:

First sentence has the order of modifiers slightly off. It's ([([描きたいもの]が描きたい)感じ]に描けて)満足の朝, using brackets to show nesting, making it literally "Satisfying morning where I drew with a feeling of drawing what I want to draw", or more idiomatically, "Had a satisfying morning where I got to draw what I want to draw."

Second and third lines are correct, but sound a bit stilted in English.

Overall, I'll say you got the individual words correct. Sentence-wise, not quite, but still a very good effort nonetheless.

Ah, thanks. But... Why "Vapor Absorption Heat Fiber" instead of "moisture-absorbing heat-generating fiber"? It's literally how the product is described, and the "moisture" in question obviously refers to the wearer's sweat, which isn't what the average person thinks of when they read/hear the word "vapor".

MarqFJA87 said:

Ah, thanks. But... Why "Vapor Absorption Heat Fiber" instead of "moisture-absorbing heat-generating fiber"? It's literally how the product is described, and the "moisture" in question obviously refers to the wearer's sweat, which isn't what the average person thinks of when they read/hear the word "vapor".

It's one of those technical terms that got lost in marketing language. 吸湿発熱 basically refers to "(Exothermic) Heat of Moisture Sorption", which describes the (small amounts of) heat generated when water vapor gets sorbed (absorbed and/or adsorbed) by a medium.

The same word can also be interpreted as two chained verbs, "Absorb-Moisture Release-Heat", which is what happens when you ask marketing staff with no knowledge of thermodynamics (or polymer chemistry) to translate the phrase into English.

In more technical translations like those for patents (and research papers) you get translations like "high heat of absorption fibers", "fibers with high heats of vapor sorption", "heat absorption fiber', etc., because they are held to a more rigorous standard (you bullshit the patent clerk/peer review board, your patent/paper gets rejected).

I've also seen "hygroscopic exothermic fiber" (usually in translations of Chinese patents/papers), which basically means "moisture absorbing heat releasing fiber" but in more technical terms. Likely a translation by someone with the relevant technical knowledge but not being (consciously) aware of the specific phenomenon described by 吸湿発熱. It is less misleading* though, since the technical wording is more precise (i.e. "Oh yeah, I guess anything that absorbs moisture will usually technically release some heat in the process [even if it's negligible], so I get what you mean..." vs. "HOLY SHIT your cloth generates heat out of thin air when you put it in water!? Don't bullshit me, that's not how thermodynamics work.").

(*Granted, describing a fiber or material as being "exothermic" is still technically incorrect and an abuse of terminology. But it's less egregious.)

The actual effect is minimal though (I say negligible, even), due to how thin heattech clothes are (heavy woolen blankets are a different matter). The clothes do work (as an undershirt or when worn indoors, not as outerwear when there's wind), but primarily due to the weave and compositing of fibers to minimize moisture evaporation (which carries heat away) while still remaining breathable (and dry, which helps keep up an insulating air layer). This is far less marketable though, since the average person is likely not going to be too impressed by 'Better weaves resulting in better breathability and decreased water evaporation'(Meh, heard that all of the time), but will go bonkers over 'Moisture Absorbing Heat Generating Fibers' (Wow! It generates heat without using electricity? It's like magic!).

In any case, I swapped out "vapor absorption" for "moisture sorption" for a more precise translation.

NNescio said:

It's one of those technical terms that got lost in marketing language. 吸湿発熱 basically refers to "(Exothermic) Heat of Moisture Sorption", which describes the (small amounts of) heat generated when water vapor gets sorbed (absorbed and/or adsorbed) by a medium.

The same word can also be interpreted as two chained verbs, "Absorb-Moisture Release-Heat", which is what happens when you ask marketing staff with no knowledge of thermodynamics (or polymer chemistry) to translate the phrase into English.

In more technical translations like those for patents (and research papers) you get translations like "high heat of absorption fibers", "fibers with high heats of vapor sorption", "heat absorption fiber', etc., because they are held to a more rigorous standard (you bullshit the patent clerk/peer review board, your patent/paper gets rejected).

I've also seen "hygroscopic exothermic fiber" (usually in translations of Chinese patents/papers), which basically means "moisture absorbing heat releasing fiber" but in more technical terms. Likely a translation by someone with the relevant technical knowledge but not being (consciously) aware of the specific phenomenon described by 吸湿発熱. It is less misleading* though, since the technical wording is more precise (i.e. "Oh yeah, I guess anything that absorbs moisture will usually technically release some heat in the process [even if it's negligible], so I get what you mean..." vs. "HOLY SHIT your cloth generates heat out of thin air when you put it in water!? Don't bullshit me, that's not how thermodynamics work.").

(*Granted, describing a fiber or material as being "exothermic" is still technically incorrect and an abuse of terminology. But it's less egregious.)

The actual effect is minimal though (I say negligible, even), due to how thin heattech clothes are (heavy woolen blankets are a different matter). The clothes do work (as an undershirt or when worn indoors, not as outerwear when there's wind), but primarily due to the weave and compositing of fibers to minimize moisture evaporation (which carries heat away) while still remaining breathable (and dry, which helps keep up an insulating air layer). This is far less marketable though, since the average person is likely not going to be too impressed by 'Better weaves resulting in better breathability and decreased water evaporation'(Meh, heard that all of the time), but will go bonkers over 'Moisture Absorbing Heat Generating Fibers' (Wow! It generates heat without using electricity? It's like magic!).

In any case, I swapped out "vapor absorption" for "moisture sorption" for a more precise translation.

Ah, I see. And I didn't even know that "sorption" was even a real word. So it's absorption plus adsorption (another new word) at the same time, huh? Neat.